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March 16th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
yes, i’m at 8mg twice a day
i find it more even to dose at 6am and 3pm
even would best describe it
i’ve tried tapering with shitty results
i think i’ll stay right here
March 16th, 2010 at 10:51 pm
Bup= 8 mg twice a day sounds like you are under control. I commed you for finding your level and sticking with it. I know many people think of it as a crutch…I think of it as saving my life. Better 2 subs a day, than handfuls several times aday. And how lucky are we that this works for drug addicts. I know lots of alcoholics that would love to have something familiar like suboxone that takes away the cravings. I hope someday they do. Good night all.
Good to hear from you Dr. H. ttfn
March 17th, 2010 at 9:23 am
this was posted on the previous thread after it closed.
i wanted to comment so i’m re-posting it to this new thread.
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Drums Says:
March 17th, 2010 at 8:22 am
The treament program I selected uses certified California Association of Alcoholism and Drug Abuse Counselors (CAADAC). I have found them to be very professional, knowlegable and helpful in assesing my needs and providing information and options. The optional course(s) of treatment are presented by an MD.
The upside is that this program is an integrated, comprehensive drug program utilizing medications, group counseling, individual couseling tailored to meet my goals, and of course a 12 step program. The downside is the cost - you pay much more than a monthly refill for buprenorphine. Fortunately, I am a “functioning” addict with a job and insurance.
-Drums
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drums,
i too have moved to a similar ‘tailored’ program.
some of us need more help unfortunately.
i can only make it on my own for a short period
then i need support in some shape or form.
the addict in me tells me i don’t,
and my new program will not let that happen easily.
constant vigilance by me and another party
a group effort whether i like it or not
March 17th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Yes, I’m sticking with the suiboxone until I am ready to jump. I have pushed myself off too soon, too many times. The treatment center and program I am in is a one year program.
I “hope” after one year I have the tools to jump off - but if not I will maintain the subox (much bhetter life than morphine, oxy’s, etc).
Sounds like the bupester and I are on the same basic page.
-Drums
March 17th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
It does sound as so. Better to maintain the subox, I agree, than to jump back to the morphine, oxy’s. That isn’t a life. And here’s a shock. May come a time when you NEED help, because of an illness, injury. And when that happens, get ahold of DrH. He will help you through it. Don’t ever forget or leave out your main management Dr. That leaves the possibility to open up to old habits. DrH really wants what is best for us.
well, back outside. I’ve been waiting for this delicious weather, and you know in the Central Valley it won’t last much longer….HEAT. Thank you DrH, because i’m able to keep up with my flowers this year, and I’m a much happier person for it. Thank you, thank you…
March 17th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
PAIN management dr, not MAIN management. Opps.
March 17th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Yes, Princess I agree with you! Also, while I do not always agree with the doctor, he has never lied to me and I honestly believe he cares very much about his patients (you don’t often find that in MD’s and the healthcare industry). Dr. Howalt has done, and continues to do, quite a bit for this community in terms of addiction education and treatment. His participation with addicts that are in trouble with the law has likely saved the community incalcuable amounts of grief. The doctor has changed and saved the lives of many. Now if I could just get the SOB to prescribe me 180 oxy’s/month I could retire from my crappy dead end job!
-Drums
March 17th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
Drums…..you do make me laugh. My husband has planted from seed over 300 heirloom tomatos. I told him if they were pot plants, we’d make money and he could sell his business. JK We have the sherriff go over our garden everyday after we plant them anyway, and you see the flash of the camera go off. I feel like writing a sign big enough for them to see saying, “COME DOWN AND LOOK. NOTHING TO HIDE EXCEPT HEIRLOOM TOMATOS, SWEET PEA FLOWERS, AND PUMPKINS TO ENTER IN THE FAIR.” I know they are doing their job, and we do have some people across the tracks up to NO good, and everyone knows it. My husband would never break the law which is what makes it so funny. Nor would I except a heavy foot when I drive. I think he loves the attention….lol Well, off to sleep. Tired tonight. Did lots of yard work and god, it felt great….see ya all tomorrow…
And yes I agree. DrH does work hard at what he believes in, and thank God he believes that addicts can be saved. I don’t think that I have every disagreed with him except in the beginning about attending meetings, and that a sip of a drink wasn’t grounds to change my sober date, and that he hadn’t changed the pictures of his family in his office. Guess what…I was wrong on all of them… Thanks Dr.H…
March 18th, 2010 at 9:12 am
So Drums, What are your indices for jumping off Subs?
Strat
March 18th, 2010 at 10:43 am
Okay, so I watch celebrity drug rehab with Dr. drew. here he goes again. has gotten a person offf of HERION and OXY’s (could be wrong there) with subox and success, and now he’s living in the sober house and dr. drew is taking him and withdrawling him from the subs. the guy is going absolutely nuts. now i think this is a great success story to get off of herion and whatelse he was taking, and dr drew screws his chances living a normal life with taking him off of subox. that is what the asshole in the central valley does. what chance is there for sobriety? especially such a heavy hitter as this guy was. hey, if you want to get off subox, great. but my idea is learn to live with subox for at least a year, then go through getting off the subox. I don’t know, i think its crazy. i know there is a different addiction to subox, but, hey, aren’t you living a BETTER life? money saved, and the most important thing to me is REMEMBERING not only yesterday, but five minutes ago. driving sober with my baby grandchildren. holly moley. what do you guys think…..and DR. Howalt, what do you think about it also…okay, ranted and raved and i thank you guys for it.
Hey Missy, you okay? Miss you girlfriend. And Rockin- how are you doing sweetie? JWS- our young person who I thought was so much older by the way she wrote in the beginning…I just love you, and hope you are so busy, you don’t have time to write. Truly, here’s to a sober day. ttfn…will be back on i’m sure.
oh and DrH, are you going to explain the difference between subox and the generic?
thanks
March 18th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Stratman:
That’s a great question! I wish I had the answer.
-Drums
March 18th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
I was just curious since you stated that the program you are in now is a one year process. With getting off Suboxone being the end result, I thought that they would set out discernable levels of attainable goals dependent on the patient’s willingness to accept input and change?
Strat
March 18th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
Hi all…Yeah, Ol’ Steve here has begun the re-entry process from a relapse…10 years, years clean and sober, all I can tell you is that addiction IS a progressive disease, and it did it’s best to take me to the grave this time….
Started with a few “innocent” Benzos, and before I turned around I was doin’ a 1.75 liter of vodka and ANYTHING else I could choke down! I like IT ALL!!! I didn’t even get 30 minutes of FUN TIME out of it…Oh my….
I DO want to apologize to ALL you wonderful folks out there…Your support has been overwhelming and I want you to know I DON’T take it for granted….Thank you, Thank you! Hopefully by seeing what happened to me, you can find some wisdom for yourselves, and just KNOW that addiction NEVER goes away. The first moment I was willing to debate drug and alcohol issues with my addict, I LOST!!!!!!
That’s about it for now….Please just LISTEN to Doc H. he knows what he’s talkin’ about…..
Love ya all,
Steve—out
March 18th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
Welcome Back Steve
Love Strat
March 18th, 2010 at 9:33 pm
Know what ya mean Steve. The last vodka I choked down, which was while I was watching over Mom dying yesterday, there was not even a moment of fun. Gotta remember that horrible helplessness. So glad you are back. We missed you.
March 18th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
Wow….
Kind of like Easter… “he has risen” WELCOME BACK Steve. The world has been pulling for you,
We’d love to hear the juicy details is you’re ever ready…. the “start” of the debate is where the biggest mistake happens, when one decides to keep it all private and inside and then the ADDICT gets powerful.
Truly glad your digging your way out!
Rockinstuff…. we’re pulling and waiting for you too…
Dr H
March 18th, 2010 at 10:07 pm
Sorry to hear about your loss Rockin
March 18th, 2010 at 11:47 pm
Hi Steve. So good to hear from you. Keep on keeping. Welcome home…
Rockin…Honey, so sorry to hear of your loss. Anything you need, give a yell, and I’m sure we’d all be there for you. Hard job you did yesterday, but you were there with her, and I’m sure in her mind, she knew. Hope you are home with us soon also. God Bless you darlin…
Boy, what a night. What a blog. I’m crying…talk later.
March 19th, 2010 at 12:25 am
Steve here….sorry for anyone who feels they were not comfortable talkin’ with ol’ Steve here…..I was 100% clean and sober at any of your sessions….
Addiction took me away, and I WENT away…..also, some folks chose NOT to talk with me, which was fine, and I never held any resentments from that…I’m a true, long time addict/alcoholic, and sometimes I pushed buttons that the good Doc. H. did not.. that’s called reality, and I still have a lot to learn about what to ask and what NOT to ask) (still about “when to push, and when, to sugar coat it”….)
You are all dear to my heart, and I truly want you ALL to get and stay clean and sober….
Steve—out
March 19th, 2010 at 8:30 am
hey steve, nice to here from you.
welcome back to reality.
i hope you stay.
keep us updated on your progress,
and never forget you are number 1 in this world.
take care of yourself 1st
March 19th, 2010 at 8:32 am
and, yes, when you are ready give us the ‘juicy details’
i don’t care what anyone says,
i love a good drunk-a-log
March 19th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Steve, Always loved talking with you. You are so right…you are an addict: and we got that. Addicts, something we all share, and I think that was actually an asset. And you were always willing to share what you had been through during your journeys with us. I thank you for that. I was never uncomfortable talking with you, nor was I with DrH. I just know it’s nice to hear from you, that you are getting well and healthy. I’m glad that even though you ‘went away’, that you decided to come back. I can’t think of anyone, who resented or didn’t like you being there. And if so, it should be something that they speak to Dr.H about, and not hurt you over the blog. You were a joyful part of the recovery at Dr.Howalts, and I think I speak for the majority. Stay getting better, and thanks for getting on the blog, letting us know how you are. God Bless…
March 20th, 2010 at 11:51 am
Strat:
The one year is a goal on my time line not the program I am in. There are no posted “indices” or any metrics by any person involved (including myself) - I wish it was that easy…
-Drums
March 20th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
I don’t see my blogs, and the “LEAVE A REPLY ISN’T PREFILLED (IF THAT’S A WORD)? AM I DOING SOMETHING WRONG ADMIN?
March 20th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
IT WORKED……Remember Ratdog? He always talked of the gremlins inside the cyberworld…
Where is Ratdog? Besides up north in the land of the beauty and bountiful — scenery and usually monetarily speekin?
Steve-Out, you are now Steve-In yes????
YAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Hardest thing to ever do I’m sure? I don’t know, but I think so.
Personally, you as a SloArc Staff member, clean n sober, you had a huge effect on me, and the stone cold– tore up from the floor up addict– trying to find their place and feeling all crazy and nervous shy and resentful and mad as hell, thinking that it could be done alone, you know how we do it? Alone, and fine with it……
‘ANYWAY YOU HAVE the gift of reaching people you didn’t lose it I would bet, and I personally look forward to seeing how you will utilize the experience in the future.
You don’t forget who you really are, and know what a good heart and helper you are……
For the critizing one whom will not see it my way, I am sorry, but I witnessed the comfort he gave the new-beez….and the old-eez and I’m so grateful that God saw fit to guide you home. ps….DID YOU SEE HOW POPULAR YOU ARE/WERE?
I COUNT ALL THESE FOLKS HERE AS FELLOW “UNDERSTANDERS” AND IT’S AWESOME HOW that common denominator we have inside, can pull us all together in a crisis situation… Nno matter what the normies say about addicts (weakness, etc.) We are way stronger……..we have had to be, and when clean I bet you wouldn’t find a better human being than an addict alcoholic — I hope you all have a great and wonderful “TODAY”…..ask our friend, that’s all we have, ask yourself, right? We only have today, and by the Grace of God and this hard- yet simple- the work is necessary in order to stay here. It is truly a gift to cherish, unless you like consequences of the underworld…
I didn’t, hell losing my daughter, my freedom, my ability to “choke down” the reflection I saw in the mirror? I hated that person, yet my addict told me I was fine, and I could start to just control it a little……….
WHAT A FREAKING CONVINCING LIAR — I HATE YOU ADDICT, ALCOHOLIC.
MATTER OF FACT????? I HOPE WHEN I WAKE EACH MORNING, YOU SAY, “OH SHIT, SHE’S UP!!!!”
March 20th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
Drums, I was hoping you’d say that I was concerned that some one out there was saling a pretty package of recovery with a tidy little bow on top.
I’ll still stick with the tried and true “a daily reprieve contingent on the maintenance of our spiritual condition” that’s the only way that I can quantify my recovery.
Strat
March 22nd, 2010 at 10:48 am
Stratman:
Yes, trying to stay in shape spiritually is part of my program. Sounds like you have worked The program, I hope it woks and continues to work for you.
-Drums
March 23rd, 2010 at 9:56 am
Have a cousin they are going to pull plug on today. This is why I sit and watch Dr.H for new and better knee replacement. She had a really sore leg and the dr didn’t do an ultrasound on it, and she had 3 strokes. Nothing left in the brain. Yep, I’m down, but will bring it back up. I know death will hit us all. There have just been so many in the past year, and I can’t tell you how many nights I’m wakened by either my brother and son speaking to me, or still see brother in casket. Shell shocked, and I think I just realized it last night. I haven’t begun to process either one of their deaths. Down into the rabbit hole, but I yell and someone throws me the ladder. Ignore my ramblings.
Rockin- thinking of you. Blog when you have the chance. Lots of love here waiting for you to receive.
Hope all are doing well. As Tigger would say, TTFN…
March 26th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
anyone have experience with the va & sub treatment?
March 26th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
hi you guys, what a quiet blog lately, ya’all okay???
Princessa de Pollo mamasita………..ha ha ha
Where you been?
Steve ? Rockin? JWS? Hi Stratman, Bupester, Drums, Admin Docta H…..
you guys gonna have a good weekend??
Hope so…
xoxo
March 26th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
I’m here. I’m.reading. Heart is full and sad but I’m ok. Just laying low. Take care….I’ll work this time of year out, I promise
March 28th, 2010 at 9:18 pm
Sorry team…. I’m not used to checking the blog as much as my helper was.
Here’s an interesting question I’ve been thinking about.
When someone has many years of sobriety and recovery and AA involvement, and then they relapse, are their chances of getting sober again better, worse, or the same as someone who has not been sober before?
I’m thinking it’s “the same” as someone who has never been sober at all.
I think it’s another one of those things about this disease of addiction that doesn’t make logical sense. The other two I talk about a lot are that the window of opportunity to get sober is not always open, and that the disease gets worse regardless of whether you use/drink or not.
Logic would tell me that of course a person with experience with recovery would be more likely to get sober again.
Bupster, you talking about the Veterans Administration?
Anyone here struggle with food addiction binge purge problems.
Dr H
March 29th, 2010 at 8:52 am
Doc H– personally i think its harder…….esp. with so much time in the program, the feelings of not only letting yourself down, but others really look up to those w/ “TIME” in the program…..and unless familiar with EVIL ADDICTION, then one knows NOT what it’s capable of…how “NO BODY” is safe, whether 30days, 60days, a year, 5 years, 10 years or twenty……the stupid disease is ruthless and ready to “take you out” at anytime….just to remind you all of the capabilities of the disease of Addiction there’s the “I’m your disease” print out I’m sure some of you have read and some my need to read…..
I’ll go get it and post asap….
please read it, it is true and to the point…
just tryin’
March 29th, 2010 at 10:04 am
i think it’s easier,
actually, for me, i know it was.
having the ‘tools at my feet’ was key.
fuck the guilt superimposed by any aa fascist.
i’m not looking for their support.
real sobriety is shown by the individual with an open heart and mind.
March 29th, 2010 at 10:05 am
and, yes, i was referring to the veteran’s administration.
March 29th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
Most addicts experience multiple episodes of the abstinence-relapse cycle. However, resistance to relapse increases as the period of abstinence becomes longer. Therefore, given your hypothetical, the addict that has experience with sobriety has no advantage over the addict that has never been sober. Both addicts start from the beginning. Was this a trick question?
-Drums
March 30th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
so, any plans in the loop for another sloarc group session?
i would like to attend one if so.
March 31st, 2010 at 3:18 pm
Hi KC here. I’ve not blogged much or recently. I’m the alcoholic who we were trying to figure out if suboxone would help. Doesn’t seem like it. I am on my first actual day of antabuse (in other words, not lying this time.). I took it a few years ago and did get sick on the 3rd and 4th days (without drinking) So have been afraid of it. But am hoping my prior sickness was something else. I let the death of an ex-boyfriend set me off this time. I thought I was over him, but I guess it’s never over until it truly is. Sorry about your mother Rockin!! And it was good to see (read) you back here Steve, if only for a little. Keep on………. KC
April 4th, 2010 at 5:32 am
I wrote a post, a longer version post, yesterday evening. I saw it wasn’t there, and thought, well, you forgot to hit submit. And as I was writing a second blog, I REMEMBERED reading it after I submitted it, and asume it was deleted. I do remember because I try to read for mistakes before hitting the submit button, but had to read my mistakes after submiting, finding some, many, and thought, well, maybe I said to much and was deleted. Aw, so what.
Enjoy the day with your perfect or not so perfect family. Remember, none of us are perfect, although many do verge of the edge of perfection. LOL Hug the sister or brother that may rub you the wrong way, because you might not have the chance to next time. I know I’m missing my brother, and looking at the picture from last year, when he was recovering from his heart surgeries, and mine from my silly knee surgeries, both depending on our families that year because he was still weak, still wanting to drink, and I was barely walking, still like today, and what happened, but he was in my dreams last night. Like saying, “get the surgeries on your knees sis, and enjoy life without chronic pain.” And he’s been in many dreams lately. Maybe he’s getting me ”ready” for the big trip he took last summer. LOL. You have to laugh at many tough times, or you’d just cry all the time. Everyday is a ‘’struggle” for addicts, and it’s how we handle the struggle that determines how we feel..are we succeeding or failing? I feel like I’m succeeding in my own way, and I’m happy. I hope you all are also.
So, a Happy Easter to my family on the SLOARC Blog. Have a good one, and remember, it’s okay to be selfish today and take sometime out for ourselves. Rockin, thinking of you today extra much, and Steve, a shout out to you, and to anyone and everyone. I love you all…let’s see if the gremlins get this blog again. LMAO!!!! Have a GREAT day…
April 4th, 2010 at 8:10 am
Good Morning all,
I was starting to wonder if this blog was going to turn into a ghost town with tumble weeds blowing through it, but up pops P.S. and on Easter Sunday of all days. A day associated with Resurrection in all its forms. I just want to say how blessed I am today to be in recovery, to have the ability of choice in my daily activities. You know I’m not too sure I agree with P.S. when she state’s that “Every day is a struggle for addicts” in the first stages of my recovery I surrendered my addiction to a Higher power and as my sobriety expanded I learned that was not enough, I had to surrender my Self Will on a daily basis to truly have a peaceful mind set. We alcoholic/addicts are not wired like the rest of society we are different in that we actually believe that we can control our surroundings and others and ourselves with our Self Will alone and when that doesn’t happen we start to struggle even harder to make it happen and then suffering and self pity sets in and the road to relapse begins to be repaved. If we don’t figure out that we cannot trust our Alcoholic/Addict self will mindset and that we must seek help from a “Power Greater than Ourselves”, what ever it might be, then we will be destined to a life of mental misery and addictions. Remember for us Surrender is Power and if you can do that on a daily basis you can be Resurrected, One Day at a Time.
But I’m sure you already knew that, just talking to my self here.
Strat
April 7th, 2010 at 6:47 am
This place is turning into a ghost town. Hey Admin are you going to let this blog die from benign neglect? Is everybody checking in without posting? I know I’m guilty of that. Is everybody attending so many meetings that you have no time to post? If nothing else we need to give Princess Stinkerbelle something to do. LOL
April 7th, 2010 at 9:24 am
Thanks but pretty busy here myself. Fighting a flu that I came down with Easter nite after entertaining my whole fily, or what is left of us
I guess I didn’t mean “struggle” as much as I meant to be aware of our addictions. We all need clean clothes around here and I need to be aware of that fact, and sometimes struggle with it, and other things I’d rather be doing. Like working in the yRd, meeting friends, shopping, but hubby needs clean clothes, and he pulls his weight around, and I need to do my part also.
That was all I meant. A d trust mr, my higher power deals with more of my problems than I do.
Well, let’s not this become a ghost town. If u Log on and no ones written at least get it started with a ” hello out there!”. I know doc is still busy with us nuts, and just hasn’t gotten into the blog everyday. Good to hear from all of you. Take care:). ( why r there flu shots? I get mine every year and it’s like my body yells out “over here. She thinks she’s safe). Lol
April 7th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
I feel like a ‘ghost blogger’. I tentatively tip my toes into the waters and get no response. And I don’t understand alot of the lingo out here. I’ve only met one of you in person, and feel like I miss out. Princess Stinkerbelle, what’s a ‘fily’? KC
April 7th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
Hello one and all. I am having oral surgery soon and am a little bit nervous about the post op pain without pain meds. The doctor even offered to call in something for me today but I declined. It was a very empowering moment. Hopefully it won’t be too bad afterwards.
I will take physical pain over the hell that was my life just last year.
Anyway, hang in there everyone. I hope your lives are as enriching as mine has become.
April 7th, 2010 at 10:02 pm
North Coast have you talked to Doc. H to see what your choices are for pain relief after your surgery?
April 7th, 2010 at 11:11 pm
I’m sorry folks, busy busy.
Soon a new counselor will be around.
Bupster, I think we will get SLOARC meetings going again soon… the question is how long will it take me to trust someone else to be competent to help keep a discussion going?
I’m really sorry KC, remind me what the question was again… I’ll speak to it, but I probably already have to you one on one, no?
Pain and Suboxone…. quite the tangle.
Full agonist pain meds and addicts … tap dancing on a land mine… (always loved that line from Rag Doll by Aerosmith)
Counselors or no?
Who can and can’t find sobriety and why…
North Coast you can get a hold of me if and when it’s necessary.
Headed off to the annual meeting of the American Board of Addiction Medicine in San Francisco next week. Any questions you want me to ask the experts?
Princess.. sorry it was me that blasted your post into the ozone, by mistake as I was weeding out the nearly 100 SPAM blog posts… good golly, they will SPAM ANYTHING THEY CAN! Many are literally in Greek using Greek alphabet and all… weird.
Recently heard of Subs going for $30 on the street (highest price I’ve heard!) then heard you could trade 5 Subs for one OC 80. DEA is rolling over in their grave…. (probably a bad metaphor?!!)
I want to start taking a survey of people at the jail, seems like 75% have tried street Subs before.
Any opinions/experience with methamphetamine psychosis?
Should marijuana be legalized?
Is it AOK for recovering opiate addicts to smoke pot?
Now I’m just rambling.
Dr H
April 8th, 2010 at 7:12 am
Hey doc,
Here’s one you can ask the experts, it’s more physiological in nature than physical, why is it that alcoholics and addicts have the same basic mind stamp so to speak i.e. Ego maniacs with low self esteem, the feeling of being lonely in a crowded room etc, there are all these common threads that run through our personalities that I hear in meeting after meeting. And are they nature or nurture? Any insights?
April 8th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Lol. Thanks doc. I thought I truly was loosing my mind, and I thought I posted, then it was gone. Thank for clearing my mind. Lol again.
KC. Sorry, and I’m laughing again. I believe that might have been ” 50″. If I’d wear my glAsses more, probably would be fewer mistakes. Sorry u don’t feel like you have been responed to. You r welcome. For myself and the blog, I put off working on taxes, was frantically cleaning for Easter with a sister who is hard on me and makes me nervous, then got the latest flu Easter nite and have been trying to bounce back from that. So keep writing and sharing. Well all love to hear from u.
North coast. Might be to late, but call drH for advice. He doesn’t want u to be in pain and knows your best options. Good luck.
DrH. Hummm. Honestly never tried marijuana. I don’t know how hard it is on you or to get off. I do know that my son was honest about his use, and he inherited my migraines. He said that was the only thing that helped, but after he had kids, stopped, and laid in a dark room and fought it out. I had them for 20 years and can’t tell you the joy that they have found something that helps many people with headaches. So, I’m not one to say yes or no. Probably not.
Doc. Things will get easier for you soon. Don’t loose your ability to trust. Feel it from your insides. Heads up.
April 8th, 2010 at 10:48 pm
Hey Doc and all- Thought I’d throw in my two cents on marijuana legalization. My thoughts are this, it’s just like alcohol, some people can use it in moderation and then leave it alone, some people can have a couple of beers or a couple of shots and leave it alone, some people can take opiates the way they’re prescribed for pain and have that half empty bottle sitting in their medicine cabinet for a year and a half. Personally, I’d rather live next door to someone who smokes pot recreationally and the most trouble they get into in finishing of a whole box of twinkies. As long as they’re not behind the wheel, not my business. I even know a number of people in law enforcement who feel the same way.
But I would absolutely HATE to live next door to a raging alcoholic like myself, with no inhibitions and likely to jump in a car.
So my thoughts, how is it any different than alcohol? I’ve smoked it in the past and put in down (hell, I went to college in Santa Cruz, I was practically obligated). So I say legalize it, tax the shit out of it, and regulate it like alcohol. Like any other drug, people are going to use it whether it’s legal or not. Some will abuse it and some won’t. But the state of CA could sure as hell use the money, so why not give it a shot. That’s my two cents and i’ve thrown them in there. Let the debate continue!! Sorry I haven’t been blogging more, but lots of stuff going on. Nothing bad, just busy. Five months sober tomorrow, and feeling better than ever!
Take care all and hopefully now i’ll be around more frequently.
Doc-thought we had a good discussion the last time I was in there that would have been a good one to bring to the board, but now I can’t remember what we were talking about…you wrote it down on one of your little pink index cards, look it up
April 8th, 2010 at 11:29 pm
As an afterthought, as someone who has worked in forensics before and even spent some time as an intern in County Jail where doc works, I can tell you firsthand that our jails and our prisons are overflowing with inmates incarcerated for marijuana related offenses. If we’re not going to legalize it, how about decriminalizing so that we stop wasting billions of taxpayer dollars on non-violent crimes…plus there’s tons of scientific evidence showing the numerous legitimate medical uses for marijuana. People who are in chronic pain, migraines (as mentioned above), cancer patients going through chemo who can’t stomach any food without marijuana (the only drug proven to improve appetite for these patients), glaucoma, as marijuana relieves pressure in the eye, insomnia, the list goes on and on. Google it people. The information is out there from legitimate sources. I don’t smoke anymore, but I think I’d rather see billions of dollars going to education and public services rather than incarcerating potheads. Peace.
April 9th, 2010 at 7:15 am
Opps, I should reread after spell check, my previous post should read “Psychology” oh well.
Yea I have to concur with RP on the Marijuana issue but I’m still reluctant to unleash another intoxicant into our society just because we can. And do we have the infrastructure in place to over see and control its distribution and taxation? Remember the present day suppliers are considered criminals today and many have that mind set, so could they step into a free market society and play nice? I don’t know. Then there are the Mexican cartels and there going to be very pissed if their cut out of the bargain, so there remain more questions than answers at this point. I haven’t read the text of the proposition that’s going on the ballot to see if the devil is in the details but it’s anything like our usual Proposition process it will be voted in with little or no regard for funding, enforcement or conseqences.
Strat
April 9th, 2010 at 9:42 am
Strat- my view is that bootleggers were criminals until prohibition ended. People still drank (probably even moreso, roaring 20s?). When prohibition ended, organized crime had a huge problem maintaining their profit margins and there was a dramatic reduction in crime. The people who were drinking still drank and those that didn’t, didn’t. I remember when I was in high school, it was a lot easier to get my hands on a bag of weed than it was a twelve pack. Bottom line to me is, the war on drugs to me has been a big joke, and the only ones winning are the corrupt south american governments who we give money to ‘crack down’ on the cartels. When the governments try to ‘crack down’ on the cartels or public officials speak out against them, they wind up in ditches with their heads cut off. So once again I say tax, regulate and sell it only in specified locations with a license where they have to check IDs (21 seems like a good age). Cut off the money supply to the cartels who are profiting as long as it’s illegal. Betcha we see a dropoff in violence and crime. And a reduction in crazy marijuana farmers in the woods with guns…ever hear about those hikers who go into the woods of humbolt and wind up shot or never seen again? OK, off my soapbox, proceed with the debate…
April 9th, 2010 at 11:06 am
About jumping off:
A year ago i tried cold turkey from 1 1/2 pills (subs) to zero thought i was doin fine for about three days ….then WHAM!! and it lasted and lasted. In fact it outlasted me. I called Doc. and got back on. Two a day for a year
four weeks ago. Four weeks ago I found out that Icould go from 2 to 1
with no prob. Then I cut down to 3/4 a tab for 2 weeks. Now I take half a tab. But…stay in touch with Doc, he will not try to “talk you back on”
In fact at least in my case he is helping me fight some of the withdrawl
symptoms like the ” jimmy legs”. Half a tab is in my opinion the make or break point. I do feel edgy, runny nose, hard to sleep, but not miserable.
I believe there is hope for any who want it bad enough. Next week half of a half 2mg. Keep in touch with Doc. Dont just go undercover.
He can help.
Jason
April 9th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
Oh NOOO….
Sorry Just Tryin… I blasted you message away when I was cleaning out spam…. I’ll have to get better at this!
Thank RP and Scruffy and Strat and princess and JT….
Dr H
April 10th, 2010 at 12:10 am
Scruffy. Good post. I don’t understand why some patients who go to doc for help with their addictions don’t call the most competent person(doc) when we go to the dentist, have surgery, are in pain. Dr. H is professionally trained in helping us, yet we are ashamed to let someone else treating us for something to ask them to call Dr H for help. When I broke my arm surgery and knee surgery last year, my ortho and staff, as well as the recovery room staff knew and had Dr H”s phone number, afterhour numbers, and a letter written and signed that dr h had permission to give advice on my pain management. I hurt like heck, but because my dr and staff knew my problem, we treated some horrible pain with non narcotic meds, great nurses that didn’t give me a shot and leave, but stayed with me, encouraging me with meditation, massage, basicly staying with me and helping me get though the pain. I did receive meds for throwing up. To cut it short, if u need to have any proceedure, the dr must know we r addicts, and the name of our addiction dr. I now step off my soapbox. Thanks.
April 10th, 2010 at 12:17 am
Strat. I’ve been extremly insecure since I was young and I’m positive that I self medicating myself with my migraine pain pills to feel normal. Many years later, I just wanted to stop. I know deal with my insecurities differently. Like it’s okay to say , no I can’t work that charity that night but what can u give me to do and help at home? Thanks for bringing this up to tPm about.
April 10th, 2010 at 7:32 am
Morning all,
Your preaching’ to the choir RP, But remember when prohibition ended the Kennedys and others had set up an infrastructure to distribute product I don’t see that happening. And unless the California growers create a lobby and Co-Op., the cartels will eat them alive we’ll be seeing headless bodies in ditches in northern Calif.
Yea P.S. remember our drinking and drugging are only symptoms it’s all the rest of the under lying “stuff” that gets us, if like they suggest in A/A we don’t work those steps and practice the principles. Yes and isn’t it strange that the drugs we take to fit in eventually isolate us so badly that we become social cripples.
Cool stuff Sruffy
Strat
April 10th, 2010 at 11:13 am
the cartels are already in the norcal forests as far as i’m concerned strat…they’ve just taken the disguise of peace loving hippies, ‘cept they carry AKs and don’t like to share their crops. Something’s got to change…and the choir needs to step up and join the fight…sign the petitions, get active, write your congressman. There’s an answer to our financial problems, reduce the population of our costly prison systems, and stop some of this senseless violence. maybe it seems hypocritical for a recovering alcoholic to be advocating for something like this, but i’ve seen it work firsthand in other countries and would like to at least give it a shot here…c’mon doc, jump in here…you’ve got your opinion or you wouldn’t have thrown it out there in the first place…speak up!!
April 11th, 2010 at 7:43 am
R.P. the petition has been signed and the chances of this making it to the ballot and being voted in are high (no pun intended) but here comes the but as with most California ballot propositions that are voted into law they are not funded, there is no department set up to handle it’s implementation and remember federal law supersedes state law so anytime in the future the feds can walk in an continue their war on drugs. I agree with you that it should be decriminalized in some fashion but due to our less than perfect proposition process it will cost the tax payer huge sums in it’s infancy and will not be the panacea that it’s proponents are seeking. But it’s a step in the right direction.
Strat
April 12th, 2010 at 1:08 am
Hi everyone-
Decided to jump back into the blog. I’ve been reading an addiction blog of a recovering sex & love, and drug addict that is quite fascinating. It has given me the urge to start writing again, which is probably a good thing. Communication with other alcoholics and addicts is always good.
So, on the topic of meth psychosis…Dr. H, you should know that I have some experience with that. I would like to warn anyone who may be reading that the story I am about to tell is DISTURBING. If talk of past experiences or drug use triggers you in anyway, you might want to refrain from reading. However I think the overall message the story sends is a good one, and I hope that my experience can be of some use to you.
It was by far one of the scariest experiences of my life, sometimes I even refer to it as my bottom. As I recall, it started after my friends left me home alone in my parents’ house. I had been awake for three days, smoking bowl after bowl of meth and snorting lines, and I was most definitely on “edge.” I heard voices outside and thought that my friends might have come back because they had forgotten something. Then my brain seemed to explode and the delusional thinking began. I walked outside of my house to find the source of the voices, but there was nothing there. I looked on the ground, and I saw 80 mg oxycontin tablets (my drug of choice), spread out all over the ground. I began picking them up and gathering them in my hands, planning on running inside and smoking them (of course). (They were actually bits of styrofoam.) Then I wondered where they had came from, and followed the trail of oc’s all the way to my mom’s flower garden. There I saw the silhouettes of human bodies, covered with glass shards and oxycontin. I felt uneasy about the situation and began to dig. I was convinced that a drug dealer had come to my house to hide his drugs, and had put the glass shards there to keep anyone from getting to them. I cut my finger on the shards (to this day, i don’t know if I really cut myself or not). As I uncovered the dirt, I began to see trashbags that were filled with something cold and squishy. I screamed bloody murder as I was convinced that the drug dealer had killed people and buried them in the flower garden. I ran to my car to get in it and run away. I had to get out of the house, but I saw a long wire attached to my car. I turned the car on, but heard that the motor was sounding funny. I drove halfway down my driveway, and then jumped out of my car, convinced that the wire was connected to a bomb that was destined to blow up my car and kill me. I ran to my neighbor’s house (a cop, mind you) and let him know that there were people in my house trying to kill me..I was hysterical, and so he believed me and assisted me in calling the cops. They came sure enough, and I could see the cloaked black figures hauling the furniture out of my house. I screamed, “Look they are stealing my shit! Can’t you see them?!” The police told me there was nothing there, but I could still see the shadow people. That was when the realization that I was high and hadn’t slept in three days flooded through my brain. I began crying and knew that I had lost my mind.
That experience was by far one of the most horrible times I ever had while using. The entire thing was so real to me, and it was so painful to see that no one believed when I could see, feel, and hear everything so clearly. The cops treated me like a disgusting piece of trash that deserved no respect. At that moment, I realized that I was no longer the kind, young college student that was just having a little fun; I was a drug addict and a lunatic. I had never felt more lost that I did at that moment. The sad thing is, even after that experience, I continued to use. My disease is so insidious that even the most pitiful and incomprehensible demoralization was not enough to sober me up. It would take several more relapses, and a lot more pain, before I would take my recovery seriously.
I am so grateful to be sober today. I still get the chills when I think about that episode. This is the first time I have ever described it with so much detail. I could literally see the images as I typed. Though the memory is difficult, I never want to forget the horror I felt that day. I always want to remember what the insanity felt like. The day I forget is the day I lose everything. A life like that is not worth living, and I pray that none of us will ever go back to that, even if we want to. We certainly don’t have to. Remember, no matter how hard it gets, no matter how much it hurts, YOU NEVER HAVE TO DRINK OR USE AGAIN. You are never alone, and there are people dying to help you, if you would only reach out. Thank you all for allowing me to express that here today. I need to remember what it was like on a daily basis. Remember that you NEVER have to do this alone! Love you all!
P.S. Dr. H - I have a new number. I have been waiting to get phone calls reminding me about appointments, but I think the office has my old #. I am sure I missed my last appointment, but I will call the office soon and give them my old number and schedule a new appointment.
JWS
April 12th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
JWS- My heart wraps around you as I read what you wrote. Bless you going through that, but bless you that you did, and are doing better…love to you…
April 12th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
JWS, I remember seeing you with those grimy hands the next day, and I can remember the spooky feeling I got when you were describing it. Brrrrrr…!!!!
Dr H
April 13th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
Everyday should have a post, so everyone knows the blog lives.
So, April showers bring May flowers, and all those snails.
How’s everyone else doing today? I’ve been fighting depression, and I’m not sure why. The weather is great. Summer’s coming. Could it be chronic pain?
April 14th, 2010 at 10:29 pm
dang……….jws, psychosis is NOT cool huh? I have stories too…..Mostly of others in the tweek zone….Once walked into the bathroom and there were three girls … shortest one then next tallest…then tallest on top…..all up in the mirror picking their faces …..and why? And why all together? It looked like a weird version of Dr. Suess….
Dr. PsychoSuess…..
“Gotta get it, boy howdy I can see it, yes I can”
“Can you see it too???” Can you?
I can, coz I am Tweek man. I see everything, deep under the dermis….
Did I use to be Sam?
I think I remember now….I ..”AM” Sam!!!
I am Sam I am..
I think I am…
Am I still Sam I am? Does anybody even give a damn?
What is today? Is it today? No, I think it’s yesterday. Yeah, yesterday is now today.
I am confused. Is it yesterday or today or tomorrow?
I think if I was Sam I am, and new if today was tomorrow. I would ask one of you kind ones if you may have a clock for me to borrow?”
Not tomorrow, today!! When I find out i will tell you asap, it’s not really that fun anymore to stay up and tweek away.
Not knowing if tomorrow is today, or if I missed yesterday.
Oh dear.
I want to find Sam, the Sam was or am, and now can’t figure it out, don’t know who i am….I THINK I NEED A PLAN, DO YOU? I THINK IT’S THE BEST WAY FOR ME TO START ANEW, WITHOUT BELIEVING I LIVE IN A SHOE.
OKAY.That is how it went in that world… nothing and nobody knew anything, yet somebody and everybody knew everything….it was their “tweek thang”
April 17th, 2010 at 9:36 am
signed a sloarc get well card in a meeting yesterday
thats new
how’s that working for you doc?
much more apprehension?
was nice to see such a young couple working on their recovery.
with their baby in tow as well.
April 18th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
Hi everyone. Started last Monday at Outpatient. Tried to bottle up my feelings, pardon the pun, when my Mom passed away. It only hurt me, and I stress that, to the brink of depressed insanity. Just glad I am on my way back, I want to be happy again. Its not going to be easy, but I really want it for me. Its what my parents would have wanted, a happy daughter. Not going to write real often, no time between work, 4 nights a week @ clinic, plus meetings AND loving life. Lots of Luv to all. Wishing you all the best in the world.
PS JWS, It meant the world to me to see you today !!!
April 18th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
Conference was “okay”, they try too hard to have symposiums on fancy stuff and not enough meat and potatoes.
I saw and was seen and all in all I like the less fancy meetings, like the Cape Cod one I go to in Septembers.
Finally, I didn’t blast your post away Just Tryin’!
I am SO excited you’re trying a new direction Rockinstuff! I what you are doing is working keep doing it, if it’s not working CHANGE IT!
Their program is well organized and has helped lots of people here in the community. Say hello to Skeeter for me.
I think one of the key points is to figure out what happened each and every time there’s a relapse, and learn from the mistake. I see so many who adopt the clueless “I don’t know what happened” reasoning and they seem to go around and around and around without stopping and finding out where they are making the flawed decision/s.
Thanks Bupster for the news. There are lots of folks who are TRYING to get to those nasty old meetings, it’s a cause for celebration when they actually DO! Been passing out the cards for ages, just the usual story of getting people to make a decision to turn their will over etc. etc.
The survey about the two drunks goes on, and so far not a clear winner in terms of answers. Meanwhile our friend struggles.
Really Big Show(Shew?) this weekend, the annual Barbershop Chorus Show at the Clark Center Arroyo Grande this coming Saturday the 24th or April. 2:30 and 7:30, come see me make a fool out of myself and decide for yourself if I should keep my day job.
Dr H
No apprehension.
April 20th, 2010 at 6:56 am
Couldn’t resist sharing. Goes to show it all depends on how you look at things.
________________________________________________
Brief description of Wizard of Oz…
Transported to a surreal landscape, a young girl kills the first
woman she meets and then teams up with three complete
strangers to kill again.
– Marin Co. California newspaper TV listing for “The Wizard of Oz”
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Dr H
April 21st, 2010 at 10:06 pm
Rockin- You do what you have to do. We want you living, healthy and happy. But remember, you’ll always be a friend. Best wishes to you.
Steve- Haven’t forgotten about you. Hope you get back on the healthy path. You too, are loved by many. God be with you…
April 22nd, 2010 at 9:19 pm
Hi everyone,hope all is well with everybody! I have a drug test I have to take for a job, does anyone know if the subs show up as an opiate? Doc? I’m kinda scared about it because I don’t want to tell them about my past right off the bat.
Doc, know I missed my appt, just been really busy, doin great though:)
Sooo does anyone know for sure?
Thanks:)
April 22nd, 2010 at 9:39 pm
Well well well, if it ain’t lurker L.
Hey wait a sec… that rhymes!!
Glad to see you SOMEWHERE!
So far I have not seen ANY employer test for Suboxone on a drug screen and it has to be a separate test, it doesn’t show up under general “opiates”, gotta be a specific buprenorphine test that is not on any standard “panel” as of yet.
Doesn’t mean it couldn’t happen, if it were me I would keep the Suboxone word to myself and plan on it not coming up and then if it does show (meaning they tested for it) point out it IS PRESCRIBED to you.
The more I think of it, the DOCTORS barely know what it is and what it does, so it’s hard to imaging some lay person has even a slight clue. I think I mentioned already once that one patient went to the ER and the doc looked at Suboxone on their med list and asked “So, you’re trying to stop smoking?”
Patient answered “Yeah…”
DON’T BE SCARED!
How exciting! A job!! Way to go!!!
Dr H
April 22nd, 2010 at 9:52 pm
Thanks doc, for everything!
April 23rd, 2010 at 7:01 am
i’ve had a couple tests - no show for the sub.
if someone is going to test specifically for it,
they probably understand the importance of its use.
no worries
April 23rd, 2010 at 4:25 pm
Luck L.
Had same experience with Amerge for migraines. I’ve been taking it for about 10 years now, and they have stopped ALMOST every headache. Have been sent to ER 3 times in those ten years for headaches from hell. The Dr. says, “Amerge, is that for HB pressure?” My question is, “and you’re treating me?”
April 25th, 2010 at 9:25 am
where did everyone go?
cured?
doc, are you still pushing patients to the blog?
it’s always been one of the tools in my recovery.
sad to see it slow down.
any chance of sloarc meetings in the future,
or did that idea get nixed?
April 25th, 2010 at 11:56 am
Hi all- I am once again an active licensed Registerd Nurse. It has been 3 and a half years since I surrendered my license,and I have to tell you when my shiny new license came in the mail it was pretty powerful for me. I had to take my licensing exam all over again,which they just made a lot more difficult I now find out. I knew I passed when the computer shut off at 75 questions- I believe I whooped-then caught myself because I was suppose to be nice and quiet- oh well. Things have changed quite a bit since I first was licensed- now they take your fingerprints- and a palm-vein scan-very “mission impossible” So now I am going to look for a job. I am hoping there are some kind open minded human resources people who won’t immediately throw away my application when i explain my background( I am obligated to do this per my board) It would be easier to meet with potential employers face to face instead of on a computer screen- but if it were easy anyone could do it right?
I am just so grateful and excited to be on my own and return to a profession I love. I couldn’t have done it without seriously abandoning everything and turning my life over to the good people at Cottage Hospital and Dr. Howalt&staff. The reinstatement process has taken a year, in hindsight it has to be a comprehensive lengthy process to have any credibitity. What I did to lose my license was a serious breech of trust and professionalism. I had to prove to the board that i was safe to practice once again. Frankly if I felt I couldn’t do it I wouldn’t have gone back- there is too much at risk. Impaired nurses are dangerous.
So here I go back into the workforce (hopefully) keep me in your prayers- while I am excited I am also terrified-
MK
p.s. Rockin I am truly sorry for your loss
pss- suboxone dosen’t show up as an opiate- been testing for years (always clean)
April 25th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
CONGRATULATIONS MK!! So very happy for you. From what I hear, the medical community has many addicts also, and should not be critical in my opinion. A person I know, knows a pharmacist, and he gets what ever he wants. Don’t know how that shows up on the books. You wonder also when a dr. sends a script to a pharmacy; whos’ to say someone might open it and say, “OHHH”, fill it and have a friend pick it up. Don’t know, so many shifty people in the world. I will pray for you, and let us know when you get your new job.
rockin; hope you are doing well. I’ve been pretty down lately not having a mother, father, son and brother anymore. One sister left. And we don’t see eye to eye. i just keep telling myself they are in a better place. but it still hurts. i hope your recovery is going well.
steve; don’t know if you read the blog anymore, but keep trying. awesome person you are.
well, not much to say. kinda have the blues. my knees are going fast,and i need to make a choice one day. used to walk my 10000 steps. now 2000 make me cry, and after a rest, i go for another 2000.
take care all…
April 25th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
MK- don’t be terrified. the good lord brought you this far…He’s still beside u..
April 25th, 2010 at 11:11 pm
Dr. H. Hope you had a fun, fantastic time singing this weekend. Always feels good to do what you love. Good job.
April 26th, 2010 at 8:01 am
mk, congrats, it’s amazing what we can accomplish in recovery.
i’ve made such positive change in mine and my kids life.
simple, right?
unfortunately, so many people think it is.
‘just say no’….fuck me
this has been work…and will continue to be
and like i said before, this blog is a real tool for my recovery,
so thanks for posting about your success and progress.
April 26th, 2010 at 10:57 am
Bupester: I always love that “just say no” crap- Its like “OH ok thanks! very helpful” I saw in a magazine some guy in Malibu has written a book about curing addiction forever without any 12-step involvement-just read his book-and your good to go. For me its important to connect with other recovering brothers and sisters- nobody can understand where we have come from like another addict.My kids have always been my biggest cheerleaders,I am lucky the three of us are very close. What I find is the nicest treat for me is honesty. It makes life so much easier-I met another nurse when I was in Sacramento who was petioning for his license back also. The two of us were unique in that we admitted we were wrong, and showed remorse.The majority of the other petitioners relied on the “I was around people using drugs-thats why I tested positive) defense-its sad to watch-really- anyway we talked after the hearing and he said “isn’t it easier just telling the truth? amen brother
MK
April 26th, 2010 at 11:06 am
Just busy, and no, I’m not promoting the blog as much as I should, just a matter of what I have time to push folks about.
I have mixed feelings about meetings. There is a new counselor working with me some, but I haven’t spent a lot of time with her and I was waiting to see how comfortable I felt with having her involved with it. I still feel it’s an event I should stay out of. JB also has offered to get them going again, but he’s doesn’t work for me specifically so I’m unclear what the relationship is.
Yes, they were a great idea and good meetings, I’m struggling with feeling 100% comfortable that they are something I know are NOT going to cause any problems for patients or others.
I have a very high sense of responsibility toward my patients. This is a deadly serious problem and I would not want to make any move that was less than positive.
d
April 28th, 2010 at 7:50 am
Doc. Do what u feel in your gut. We will respect your decisions reeetings. Ok?
Had a “hard knock” type of day. We have many trees surrounding our property. Big gust of wind came up while I was working in the yard. I heard a snap, swoosh, and found myself under a 30 year old tree. I tried to find my way out and finally did. The wrist I broke last fall is swollen and hurting, and I have an appointment with my ortho tomorrow. Great luck cuz I wasn’t killed. Although my 30 yr old man tree was snapped in two. I wonder, will a replanted tree grow much at this time of my lime? Over wise, seem to be having “fairly” good days. Hope you r all well…
April 28th, 2010 at 7:54 am
The blog will rise again. Off to orthoo wish me luck.
April 28th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
Doc,we have to get the blog back on track, in the right month. I really enjoy it(even though I don’t post a lot), and would hate to see it fall by the wayside. If there is anything that I can do to help keep it up, let me know!!! Would be more than happy to help in any way!!
L
April 29th, 2010 at 6:33 am
We’re still in June Doc.
April 29th, 2010 at 7:09 am
Yeah Yeah Yeah…..
First of all, there’s a new April May 2010 area dude.
Second, we’ve ALWAYS been in “June” 2008!
This whole “blog” thing is new to me and once I got it working I had to restrain myself from messing it up and breaking it.
It’s like there’s “Categogies” and then “posts” and “then” “comments” and at the very beginning I couldn’t figure out how to change the “category” so I stuck with the June 2008 then changed the dates on the others.
Dr H